tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507136945842934293.post1429949271260640682..comments2023-09-21T06:15:03.099-07:00Comments on Conjugate Visits: On Copy EditorsJune Casagrandehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00363096837053080969noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507136945842934293.post-23933489927582721082008-12-03T20:40:00.000-08:002008-12-03T20:40:00.000-08:00Hi, Tessa. Thanks for the nice comment. Copy editi...Hi, Tessa. Thanks for the nice comment. <BR/><BR/>Copy editing can be EXTREMELY satisyfing. Not just catching the spelling and punctuation and tense errors -- fixing bad sentences and making them good. I don't always pull it off. But when I do, I'm really happy.<BR/><BR/>Of course, copy editors are notorious for sometimes INSERTING mistakes. It's so easy to do. <BR/><BR/>My favorite example of how rewording something can result in an error doesn't actually involve a copy editor. But I still love the story: When I was a reporter, I did a story about a new demographics study that showed that the city I covered, Newport Beach, had the smallest minority population of any city in the state. One of the paper's columnists starting writing about that, calling Newport Beach "the least-diverse city in the state." But it wasn't the least diverse. Lynnwood, with a 97% Hispanic population, was least diverse. Newport Beach, was the least diverse majority white city. <BR/><BR/>If you decide to keep aiming in that direction, note that a background in journalism is very helpful because there are some journalism principles a copy editor must understand -- proper attributions, libel issues, journalism standards and ethics.<BR/><BR/>Happily, those issues are interesting to learn about, too!June Casagrandehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00363096837053080969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507136945842934293.post-65270568532779888282008-12-03T19:38:00.000-08:002008-12-03T19:38:00.000-08:00Wow. I don't know how I managed to get to your bl...Wow. I don't know how I managed to get to your blog, but I'm so glad I did! I think it had something to do with digg.com and an atheist headstone.. but I guess that's really irrelevant, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>Right now, I'm in my first year of college, and, as you describe it, I'm beginning to fully realize my somewhat "savant" ability to edit. Last year, as an editor of our school newspaper, I saw the first signs. I caught mistakes three other people would miss. I'm sure I was actually quite annoying in that manner. But I was good.<BR/><BR/>I began studying Journalism, but I quickly discovered it wasn't my calling. But my love for language has never failed, so now I'm studying English!<BR/><BR/>The weirdest thing about finding your blog is that, at least at the moment, copy-editing is exactly what I would imagine my dream job to be. And I absolutely LOVE reading up on common grammar errors. I gorge on it; it's my addiction. It never fails to fascinate me. I thought I was crazy, and it's nice to know now that there are other grammar freaks like myself.<BR/><BR/>So, I just wanted to thank you. Thank you for sharing your blog, so that I may know I'm not alone. And that I should really look into copy-editing in my future.Tessahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17993388342194644772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507136945842934293.post-68018720847357744602008-11-25T08:09:00.000-08:002008-11-25T08:09:00.000-08:00I wrote my last comment before reading this from y...I wrote my last comment before reading this from you. So now I realize I should have said those are newspaper editing terms (much more pertinent to that side of the business because of how fast stories get published and the fact that the reporter, editor, and copy editor are all hooked up to the same computer system.)<BR/><BR/>Moving on. Yeah, catching typos in terms you don't even know is pretty freaky -- definitely savant-y in a way. I bet linguists would have some understanding of it: Like there are certain patterns to spellings that a savvy person can pick up on. Still, it's kind of nice to know your subconscious is looking out for you even when your conscious mind isn't pulling its weight.June Casagrandehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00363096837053080969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507136945842934293.post-35305412939977137882008-11-25T06:52:00.000-08:002008-11-25T06:52:00.000-08:00My children and husband have the same habit of sti...My children and husband have the same habit of sticking random bills in their pockets...and as chief laundry person, I keep them as tips!<BR/><BR/>I recently edited a book the topic of which was totally alien to me. But strangely, maybe by intuition, I even picked up on misspellings of technical terms specific to the subject matter. And occasionally something about the name of a Japanese company mentioned would drive me to Google only to find that the name was misspelled.<BR/><BR/>Sounds cool, right? But I also can't read ANYTHING without internally editing!!Dihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04653282356172573799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507136945842934293.post-55314564862642825172008-11-24T11:17:00.000-08:002008-11-24T11:17:00.000-08:00Joy-Mari:Thanks! It's taken me a long time to begi...Joy-Mari:<BR/><BR/>Thanks! <BR/><BR/>It's taken me a long time to begin to understand the profound philosophy of Popeye: I am what I am. I tried SO hard to be a meticulous and organized person. I turned over that new leaf so many times it had windshear. Finally I accepted that, with X effort, I can do Y. But promising myself I'll put in A and B and C effort to BECOME D was just not something I was going to do.June Casagrandehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00363096837053080969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507136945842934293.post-33436804437506351882008-11-24T11:15:00.000-08:002008-11-24T11:15:00.000-08:00Blackwell:You're a teacher, right? I'd guess that ...Blackwell:<BR/><BR/>You're a teacher, right? I'd guess that the organizational challenges of that job are much tougher than catching some misplaced apostrophes. Any slip-ups in your job take place in front of an audience -- an audience containing some very tough critics.<BR/><BR/>I guess there's hope for us all!June Casagrandehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00363096837053080969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507136945842934293.post-25943375837844946782008-11-24T10:59:00.000-08:002008-11-24T10:59:00.000-08:00Joel:Re "So much in our culture rages against orga...Joel:<BR/><BR/>Re "So much in our culture rages against organic and mystic genius":<BR/><BR/>That's really interesting, and it reminds me of something I learned in a political philosophy class in college. The professor talked numerous times about how, back in the day (sorry, prof, I don't remember which day), the way to deal with insane people was not to institutionalize them but to but them on "ships of fools." The reason, little understood today, was not to isolate them or control them or punish them. It was to transport them from port to port so that people could experience their unique insights firsthand. Crazy people were thought to have a rare understanding of the world from which others could benefit. <BR/><BR/>(The class went on to discuss how "insanity" started to be perceieved as an illness and a thing to be controlled. A big part of the reason for this shift: They had a bunch of empty leper hospitals they didn't know what to do with. So they started putting crazy people into this instutional setting. The resulting institutionalization/medicalization of insanity sort of naturally followed. How's THAT for a comment on a grammar blog?)June Casagrandehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00363096837053080969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507136945842934293.post-62709699476295146722008-11-24T02:05:00.000-08:002008-11-24T02:05:00.000-08:00Love, love, love this post. And you described me, ...Love, love, love this post. <BR/><BR/>And you described me, too. I'm a mess. Always. So I feel a bit relieved that it is possible to be a brilliant sub-editor (you) <B>and</B> be a bit of a mess. <BR/><BR/>Thank you!Joy-Mari Cloetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01567953643317015868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507136945842934293.post-52192753820869357392008-11-23T21:08:00.000-08:002008-11-23T21:08:00.000-08:00I loved this post, too! I've had many moments simi...I loved this post, too! <BR/><BR/>I've had many moments similar to almost asking Joy to look under the desk and then not doing it (resulting in several cut fingers, a dog locked in a hot car, and other such fun).<BR/><BR/>Anyhoo, I am all the more fascinated that you can keep track of what to look up when and maybe think I might have been able to make it as a copy editor, too. Oh well. You can live the dream for both of us.LL Blackwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09921100359598254068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507136945842934293.post-86711490644018769772008-11-22T14:54:00.000-08:002008-11-22T14:54:00.000-08:00Sometimes it's labor to get through any kind of re...Sometimes it's labor to get through any kind of reading--even a long blog. This post in particular was anything but laborious to read. And I confess that I often put off reading long posts, which is ironic, because even my comments verge on the psychotically verbose.<BR/><BR/>"Savant" was a nice choice. Part of what I ponder is the possible connection between the dysfunction and gift. <BR/><BR/>My unposted rant goes on about mystery and the organic. Some day I need to work it into my own blog. I was just chatting with a friend today over a long lunch about "being in the flow" (his words; I used the expression "unconscious" to refer to that positive transcendence). So much in our culture rages against organic and mystic genius. I'm not sure how to fix that. I'm pretty sure we can't control ourselves out of bondage. Which is part of the reason I rest heavily--as much as I'm willing to let me--on Grace.<BR/><BR/>On "sisyphean": Thanks. I'm not sure if I'd heard it before either. Probably I had. But it was the image and the word I wanted to use. I googled it and found that I was misspelling it (left out the "e"), but I was happy to discover that it was there. I like when that happens.Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05550742712966484303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507136945842934293.post-54312424994310901922008-11-21T22:20:00.000-08:002008-11-21T22:20:00.000-08:00Thank you. And thanks for reading the whole thing....Thank you. And thanks for reading the whole thing. I wasn't expecting anyone to actually get all the way through it. <BR/><BR/>Honestly, in my case, I think it's a coping a skill. A very hard-earned coping skill that I usually just describe with the term "recovering slob." Perhaps "recovering ADD" might be a little more on the nose. But, long story short, I consider it nothing short of a huge that I can actually pay attention to words on a page in front of me. <BR/><BR/>And great use of "sisyphean." I don't think I've ever seen the adjective form before.June Casagrandehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00363096837053080969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507136945842934293.post-22429839895898761452008-11-21T21:59:00.000-08:002008-11-21T21:59:00.000-08:00Thanks for sharing this. It evoked a very long re...Thanks for sharing this. It evoked a very long response that I decided to tuck away.<BR/><BR/>I think about this kind of thing a lot. In a lot of ways, I think you've described the human condition. And we are certainly an odd and amusing, frustratingly fragile, limited and weak, but simultaneously powerful and graceful, ultimately ineffable species.<BR/><BR/>I like us. I don't think Science can ever come close to figuring out how we work. Not that it should stop trying. But the pursuit is a sisyphean endeavor and it's good that we embrace the humor of it all.Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05550742712966484303noreply@blogger.com